good stuff michael. yet another reminder that we really shouldn't need, but sadly do.

 

cheers.

i do think that is a big part of the story. woo hoo he invented assembly line production so a lot the workers are now unskilled and bored shitless

 

ford cars are crap
disney is so boring and formula
beware big money

 

Actually, all of those points that you mentioned were talked about when I was in school.

It just goes to show most great things have both good and bad consequence.

 

fair enough

they were mentioned in my school to a point but the emphasis was always placed on the positives. i think in this case the negatives far outweigh the positives

 

then again, i don't think assembly line production is a great thing for the reasons i mentioned

 

I guess I must be old because when I was in school, I learned none of this. That's why in my WWII book, I gave a lot of space to the pro-Nazi stances of men like Ford, Lindbergh, etc.

 

Americas history iosn't as pollished as people believe

 

Enzo Traverso, author of 'Nazi Violence: A European Genealogy' has many interesting things to say about the "wider historical context" in which Nazism emerged (things that have been relegated to the memory hole by Western victors of WWII):

http://mondediplo.com/2005/02/15civildiso

 

Excellent post. You never see this in American textbooks. Very few know of it. The other outstanding link to Hitler were some well known and well-publisized clergy who gave Hitler the moral authority to kill Jews. We have those same type of religious here givng Bush the blessings of their God. BTW, FORD means Found On Road Dead.

 

LOL! Henry Ford WAS a fascist. Well, and a Nazi. He was gonna have his thugs kill all the strikers and his wife finally had to squeeze his head hard with both hands and scream at him: "Enough, Henry!! Enough!!!" And Disney. A morphine addict as well, I hear. "Magic Kingdom" indeed!

 

that proves that business people will do anything, even support fascism, to stay in power

 

Maybe it's an obvious point....we all know about the deplorable British and American and German companies helping the Third Reich to hum along. Oh, look, there's a war going on now too! What's changed, then?

 

i knew ford was an anti-semite (of course i learned it OUT of school mr fosco) and i knew disney was a notorious anti-homosexual (methinks thou doth protest too much always comes to mind) but i didn't know to what extent both of these dudes beliefs went. at any rate, i would have never have invited them to have a drink with me

 

thanks sk

mickey - i will get that book from you when i can afford it!

fosco - its the same in the UK believe me. we get told all sorts of shit about how 'great' a man winston churchill was. we don't hear anything about his getting the army to beat up strikers, suffragettes etc. or about his intentional gas bombing of civilians in....you've guessed it...Iraq.

robot - ford cars are crap

nice one mary

neil - got a link for the morphine story??

keir and graeme - nothing much has changed

rose - i don't invite fascists out for a drink either

 

great post Tubthumper!

I heard that Ford was quite angry at the Powerful Jews trying to vye into his business, I was not aware of this.

 

Ford had plants operating in Nazi Germany. Allied pilots were told not to bomb them, so the local people started using them as bomb shelters.

 

Never heard most of this stuff, but the Ford foundation is one of the largest contributors to socialist organizations in America right now. Look it up, it's disgusting.

 

And Rino owns nothing made in China, right?

 

nice one Michael histroy has a way of poking up it's dirty nose once in awhile.

 

Henry ford was awesome!! Of course you delete this because it doesn't fit in your bull socialists ideals but he was a great American. Spit on his grave and a hundred million people like me will spit on yours terrible article poorly written and well just give it up, he wanted to end the bankers (mostly Jewish) hold on every American citizens banks and monetary systems it was a way to kick out the bankers from the USA. Research it and you'll see, he did not sell Nazis tanks what a joke your an idiot!!!!